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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189242832" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189242832">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>One topic that is coming up more often is handling people leaving the project, we recently had a couple of members step back from the project. We don't really have any documentation on what people need to do , and this has led to some hiccups. E.g. Not every ex-member is in the alumni team because some people just deleted themselves, some people were on highfive lists that they didn't know about. It would be nice if we could have a documented way for members to smoothly exit the project.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189242989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189242989">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well, other than people removing their access to things (repos? Zulip? Discord groups? something else?) and them being added to alumni</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243013" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243013">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>Do they need to write some kind of summary of what they were last working on or something?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243240" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> BatmanAoD (Kyle Strand) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243240">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="249394">Val Grimm</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni/near/189243013" title="#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni/near/189243013">said</a>:</p>
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<p>Do they need to write some kind of summary of what they were last working on or something?</p>
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<p>"need" might be a bit strong, given that people leave for reasons of stress and/or time constraints... but maybe "encourage"?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243260" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243260">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="249394">@Val Grimm</span> Well ideally they would just become alumni in <code>rust-lang/team</code> and then their access would change automatically.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243289" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243289">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think people need to write anything.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243319" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> BatmanAoD (Kyle Strand) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243319">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>It would also be good to track the "bus factor" for project members pre-emptively. E.g. ideally we wouldn't have anyone with unique access or knowledge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243436" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243436">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's more that I bet that a lot of people don't know how to partially or fully remove themselves from Rust project.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243497">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Like I've talked to people who don't know they're on <code>rust-lang/team</code> for example.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243578" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243578">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
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<p>Well ideally they would just become alumni in rust-lang/team and then their access would change automatically.</p>
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<p>[not for infra btw, I'll probably write some notes down when we scale down the level of access alex has]</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243586" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243586">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, so are we talking about an automated workflow they can trigger?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243594" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243594">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>which doesn't yet exist?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243601">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>or a checklst?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243651" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243651">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>or a checklist to turn into a workflow?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243704">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>for most stuff removing them from the team repo does the trick</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243749">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="249394">@Val Grimm</span> Yeah like a checklist/guide to "How do I become an Alumni?" on forge.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243772" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243772">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>off the top of my head, I guess the things that are not automated yet outside of infra are:</p>
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<li>discord</li>
<li>zulip</li>
<li>highfive</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243791" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243791">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we consider infra... well... where do I start <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189243937" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189243937">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:52)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="219696">XAMPPRocky</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni/near/189243749" title="#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni/near/189243749">said</a>:</p>
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<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="249394">Val Grimm</span> Yeah like a checklist/guide to "How do I become an Alumni?" on forge.</p>
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<p>seems good to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189244207" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189244207">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:54)</a>:</h4>
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<p>if we consider infra... well... where do I start</p>
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<p>Well maybe that's two seperate lists then? I'm assuming most teams/people won't ever have/need infra access.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189244274" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189244274">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>well I'll have to write it eventually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189244283" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189244283">(Feb 27 2020 at 18:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can just include it then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189244880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189244880">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, so, removal from the team repo, discord, zulip, highfive. addition to alumni. if possible, basic info capture for institutional memory, which we would need a template for to make it easier for folks. does this sound like the checklist?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189244887" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189244887">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>What am I missing&gt;</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189244896" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189244896">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>(this is for non-infra)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189244924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189244924">(Feb 27 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, what sorts of info would one want to capture for institutional memory?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189251571" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189251571">(Feb 27 2020 at 20:08)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="249394">@Val Grimm</span> I don't know if you're offering to write the list, if you are, great. If not I can work on it next week.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189251739" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189251739">(Feb 27 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>there is already a page on the forge on this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189251746" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189251746">(Feb 27 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>that could get some love</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189251793" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189251793">(Feb 27 2020 at 20:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="121055">@Pietro Albini</span> Yes, I think we're talking about adding this to forge.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189251829" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189251829">(Feb 27 2020 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was talking about <a href="https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/team-maintenance.html" target="_blank" title="https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/team-maintenance.html">https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/team-maintenance.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189251840" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189251840">(Feb 27 2020 at 20:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>it should probably be fixed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189252928" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189252928">(Feb 27 2020 at 20:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah, nice. Yeah that's a good start.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189293967" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189293967">(Feb 28 2020 at 09:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hi, I think it is better if someone with more context works on this list, alternatively we could discuss async and I could do. <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> I'm not sure if I yet know all the stuff I need to do. Also thanks for the existing doc Pietro.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189293999" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189293999">(Feb 28 2020 at 09:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="249394">@Val Grimm</span> Okay, I’ll make a start on it next week.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189294015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189294015">(Feb 28 2020 at 09:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll read it when you are done, to learn. I need to do some more of that in general.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189294075" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189294075">(Feb 28 2020 at 09:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thank you <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189308940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189308940">(Feb 28 2020 at 13:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, maybe a bigger project would be to have kind of intro to contributing that's general to the Rust project to give better context. The current contributing documentation is focused around the main repos, but there's actually a lot of different groups who would love contributors.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189309010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189309010">(Feb 28 2020 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hm. Sounds like that would be a situation calling for an interview of a rep from each group</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189309022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189309022">(Feb 28 2020 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>and then writing something up based on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189309026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Val Grimm <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189309026">(Feb 28 2020 at 13:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>possibly?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189318138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189318138">(Feb 28 2020 at 15:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well I don't currently know what form that intro would look like. I was thinking of something aimed directly at contributors,  one example that came to mind was <a href="http://www.sortingh.at" target="_blank" title="http://www.sortingh.at">http://www.sortingh.at</a> which walks you through what tools and resources you can use for free to make your own game. I was maybe thinking something similar where someone could say their level technical expertise, what kinds of things they are interested and giving them a list places in the project they can contribute to.</p>
<p>I'm not entirely sure though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609422">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> so I am planning to open a PR to move <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="119009">eddyb</span> to "lang team alumni" (I've discussed with them, obviously).</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609456" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609456">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure if we've developed any conventions for that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609465">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>They're still involved in compiler team and elsewhere</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609474">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>So I don't think I need to move them to the Alumni list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609522" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609522">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh well we don’t think we handle that case at all</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609542">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK. I'll just put a nice note in the commit message for now.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609551">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>Alumni right now is completely left the project.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609552" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609552">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like we want some kind of metadata about this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609576" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609576">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe overkill :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609590" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609590">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>if nothing else, it'd be just nice to have a list of alumni that is per-team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609936" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609936">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah I was thinking about what if in addition to <code>leads</code> and <code>members</code>, there’s an <code>alumni</code> list?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609985" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609985">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems pretty reasonable</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189609995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189609995">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think git commit messages suffices for more details, probably</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189610008" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189610008">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>(i.e., it'd be cool to be able to git-annotate why someone is there to get more notes)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189610801" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189610801">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well I think depending on the information ideally it would be a bit more visible. Ideally with alumni we would have a summary of their contributions for the website.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189611846" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189611846">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, maybe, but it's definitely work and overhead to maintain these sorts of things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189611852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189611852">(Mar 03 2020 at 16:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree it'd be nice though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189612385" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189612385">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think maybe a good way there is to eventually support links (presumably to inside rust blog posts, where we thank people for their work)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189614152" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189614152">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> hmm, how would you include the summary of what someone did in the website without using too much space?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189614187" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189614187">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="user_uploads/4715/8EwbMaAZ6C2mnuhYOhLS--Wt/2020-03-03-18-25-38.png" target="_blank" title="user_uploads/4715/8EwbMaAZ6C2mnuhYOhLS--Wt/2020-03-03-18-25-38.png">2020-03-03-18-25-38.png</a><br>
btw I had an idea on how to include alumni in the teams (with dummy data of course)</p>
<div class="message_inline_image"><a href="user_uploads/4715/8EwbMaAZ6C2mnuhYOhLS--Wt/2020-03-03-18-25-38.png" target="_blank" title="2020-03-03-18-25-38.png"><img src="user_uploads/4715/8EwbMaAZ6C2mnuhYOhLS--Wt/2020-03-03-18-25-38.png"></a></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189615853" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189615853">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>hmm, how would you include the summary of what someone did in the website without using too much space?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I'm not sure why it needs to be conservative with space specifically. I was thinking 2–4 sentences for each person.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189615943" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189615943">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> We'd have to start writing those posts first. <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189616034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189616034">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> I feel like that would highlight too much past members compared to current members</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189616096" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189616096">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd be fine doing that in a separate "alumni" page, but not in the various team pages</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189616138" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189616138">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, what do you think about having names like in my screenshot in each team page, pointing to an alumni page with those summaries for each person?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189616272" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189616272">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like giving everyone a page would be too much. I would think that our current alumni page would also include team alumni.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189616306" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189616306">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, not a page for every single person, every person in a single page</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189616766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189616766">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh , hmm. I'm not sure, that might be the opposite and be too big as just checking <code>team</code>, there's 270 people in the rust lang org.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189616906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189616906">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, let's maybe do a quick call to brainstorm some ideas?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189617108" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189617108">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can't do a call right now.  I could have a call about it tomorrow afternoon?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling%20Alumni/near/189617315" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Pietro Albini <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/223182-wg-governance/topic/Handling.20Alumni.html#189617315">(Mar 03 2020 at 17:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's not a problem, let me pm you on discord</p>



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